Japanese fans have had their share of bad years, but when it comes to bad news, it’s the worst fan that’s usually right behind them.

When it comes time to take a trip to Japan, it can be hard to resist the urge to buy a car and a seat at the best of times, even if it means that you’re going to have to shell out for a few thousand dollars more than you normally would.

That’s the case for Japanese fans, who, while not all of them are terrible, have had a few bad years.

The list below is based on fan ratings of the best Japanese car fans, and it includes some pretty big names, including Nissan’s Kazuki Nakamura, Toyota’s Takashi Murakami, Honda’s Masahiro Matsui and Mazda’s Kazuhiro Ohsumi.

The fans who have gone the furthest from the norm can also be found, including the recently departed Honda driver Yoshitaka Honda, who was the best-known Japanese fan of the last few years.